<TITLE>12. Par 90-109</TITLE>L-90 And I said, "Yes, sir," I said, "her mother was telling me about it."
Said, "Yes, her mother didn't take it too well."

L-91 I said, "Yeah, her mother told me she 'would rather walk with her to the grave.'" And I said, "Frankly, that's what she was doing."

L-92 And so he said, he said, "I want you to sign this statement." Said, "Did you baptize her? How did you baptize her?"
I said, "In Christian baptism."

L-93 And he said, "I mean how, sir? Did you sprinkle her, pour, or immerse her?"
I said, "Christian baptism is immersing."

L-94   "Uh-huh," said, "all right." Said, "Now, you, you immersed her then in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?"

L-95 I said, "Yes, sir, that's Jesus Christ, that's the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. That's the way I--I baptized her."

L-96 And he said, "You baptized her in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?"

L-97 I said, "Yes, sir. I never called them words, now. I baptized her in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, which is 'Jesus Christ.'"

L-98 He said, "Yes, sir, I see," and he put it down like that. He said, "You know, that's the way the early Catholic church baptized them."
I said, "Oh, is that right?"
And he said, "Yeah, that's the way."
I said, "What happened? 'They did run well.'"

L-99 And he said, "Well," he said, "you see," said--said, "you believe a Bible. God is in His church."

L-100 I said, "God is in His Word, sir, His Word." I said, "Did you say Peter was the first pope."
He said, "He was."

L-101 "Well," I said, "then if the Catholic church has to say all of its masses in--in Latin, and so forth, where it won't change; then what did the first pope said, in Acts 2:38, where he said, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.'" He said, if you'll... I said, "On this confession, and so forth," I said.

L-102 He said, "Well, didn't Jesus tell His disciples, 'whosoever's sins you remit, to them they're remitted; whosoever's sins you retain, to them they're retained'?"
I said, "He did."

L-103 "Then what's wrong with that? Your very Bible tells you that."

L-104   I said, "Then if you'll remit sins the way that they remitted them, I'll go with you. Cause, Peter was asked, the one that had the keys, 'What must we do to be saved?' He said, 'Repent, every one of you, and be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins.' Now you do it like that, and I'll go with you." Amen. That's the Word. That's God's way of doing it. They weakened on it. That's...
He said, "Well, well, I never come to argue with you."

L-105 I said, "Who was arguing?" See? I said, "I never. I'm not arguing. I... you just asked me a question, and I answered it the best that I knowed how."

L-106 I said, "I'm going to ask you one." I said, "You said that the... that God was with the church. And now I'm going to give you the benefit of telling you, the first Christians, if you want to call them Catholic, all right; Peter, James, John, Mark, Luke, and all them, they, yes." I said, "Then in following the order of the Bible that these apostles wrote, now you mean today that your dioceses now is so much greater than it was then, you know more wisdom? And you know how to take care of the...?"
"Yes, sir. That's exactly right."

L-107 I said, "Then why was it, that when they followed the commandments of Jesus Christ, they raised the dead, they cast out devils, they done all kinds of signs and wonders, and you don't do it today? Now what's wrong?"

L-108 If the church was better in the Lutheran age, or the Wesleyan age, or any other age, then it was back there, why didn't they do the works of them then? See? See? Certainly. Back to the Word!

L-109   Samson stood there, stripped of his power. But, you know, there was something (I want to hurry) the Philistines didn't notice, while Samson was standing there thinking all this over.


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